If you watch Discovery channel, you have probably come across these two shows some time in the recent past. The premise of both shows is basically that there's a dude in the wild and he's up against nature. Using his skills and smarts (which he helpfully shares with you), he survives. End of show. However, as I hope to lay clear in this post, there are some basic differences between Man Vs. Wild and Survivorman. As always, here they are, in list form.
1. * Survivorman is an actual expert on survival and a filmmaker. He remains the only producer in the history of television to produce an internationally broadcast series entirely written, videotaped and hosted alone. His real name is Les Stroud.
* The star of Man Vs. Wild is a wanker who went to Eton and is a son of a Tory. He owns an island and lives on a barge on the Thames. His goes by the neauseatingly wannabe macho name Bear Grylls. Sort of like the midget who calls himself Andre the Giant.
2. * Survivorman ACTUALLY goes into the wilderness all alone for a week. No camera crew. He lugs his own stuff (50 lbs), and only has a satellite phone that connects him to civilization in case of emergency.
* Bear f*@#ing Grylls has a camera crew with him at all times. Yeah, he pretends like he's alone, but really, there's a camera guy. And for all you know, an entire film crew and caravan with a hot water bath and scantily clad blondes right behind the camera.
3. Survivorman doesn't do stupid shit. If there is a straight line of distance 100m connecting point A to point B, you can be sure that Les will walk the line, traveling a distance of no more than 150m.
* But not Grylls. Bear f*@#ing Grylls will have to climb a cliff, jump a ravine, plunge through rapids, swim through whirlpools and bear hug an anthill to get from A to B, travelling (and mostly flat-out running) for 3.5 miles in 28 minutes of an episode to get from A to B.
4. * Survivorman doesn't eat crap just for the sake of eating crap. To be fair, he sucks at catching anything, so he tends to eat mostly bugs for 7 days, but he's OK with that. He sets traps, usually nets nothing, complains a lot, eats a few termites, and then moves on. For anyone who has actually tried catching any sort of animal, you know that this is pretty much how it goes.
* Bear f*@#ing Grylls on the other hand will eat crap. First of all, there always just happens to be a newly dead mammal of some sort in his path (killed by his behind-the-scenes coterie, no doubt). Then, he walks up to it and eats its most disgusting innards. Why eat dead skunk bladder when you can eat its thigh, I wonder. I have also seen him eat a "just dead" zebra with no hands. you have a knife, you idiot. Use the f*@#ing knife. He also drinks his own urine. Pees into a bottle and then drinks it. As anyone who knows the basics of survival training, you DO NOT drink urine straight. You make a solar still. Sure enough, in the one episode where Stroud was dehydrated, this is what he did. I have also seen Bear f*@#ing Grylls squeeze water out of some animal's dung and drink it straight.
I guess what pisses me off is the melodrama that Grylls tries to inject into the show. Why drink your own urine 5 minutes into the show when you have dudes a few feet from you drinking Dasani. I'm sure you have some too off camera. Jackass. (I also read that he faked some of his locations, but I am not sure of the details). But more importantly, you're misleading people. There are safe ways of adventuring, and genuinely useful tips that you should know to increase your chances of survival. And then there are stupid ways of doing all this shit, which is EXACTLY what Gyrlls does with his infuriatingly whiney out-of-breath accent. If people do get stranded, they're going to remember watching this idiot eat maggots off a dead sheep, and they're going to get themselves killed.
So, help us all out, Bear f*@#ing Grylls. Learn from Les Stroud. And if you can't, I hope the next time you jump across a chasm, its a really really deep chasm. And that you misjudge the distance.
Update: Got to love youtube. Bear f*@#ing Grylls is a fraud.
Thursday, November 20, 2008
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mm, hear your point but survivorman can be pretty boring. He Gets into the amazon and moans about not eating for four days and then proceeds to go look for fruit on the forth day. He was right there, why leave it so long just because he had a can of soda! And then not being able to create a shelter on his boat with leaves and branches! And then commenting on only having one match! make your own fire lazy shit. and then stating that he'd need to build a raised level the next night because of scorpians etc. It was still light. Make a temporary plan in the mean time... but then not being able to build a shelter with branches on his boat, mm.
ReplyDeleteTrue, true... but I keep thinking its much more like a real-life situation. I can guarantee you, if my ass was lost in the middle of nowhere, I'd freak a bit before getting my bearings, and I'd probably suck at getting ANYTHING to eat for a bit. Of course, I would probably complain less. But then again, the guy gets many million bucks for doing just that...
ReplyDeleteSo what? he donesn't have a camera crew, big deal!! Survivorman doesn't even do any of the stuff bear does like climbing rocks and mountains, going long distances and actually finding his way out. Les the lezbo goes 15 miles out of a city, camps out for an entire week eating dead animals and bugs and on the 7th day, he walks for 15 minutes back into civilization. He usually has a gun and I've seen his use gun powder to make fire. Bear has a camera crew, but they are not allowed to help him out in anyway. He usually goes with the clothes he is very and some drining water. I haven't watched any of these shows lately, but I remember I used to watch the survivorman for laughs and damn it was funny!!!
ReplyDeleteActually, Les is only allowed a gun when there are things like polar bears around, with the caveat that he's not allowed to use it for hunting, only for protection. He says that in the show. Usually is a HUGE overstatement. Pay attention. And Les is not 15 miles out from a city, where are you getting your information? And just in case I'm wrong, and you can come back with specifics, keep in mind that you can be five miles or LESS away from a city in the middle of the woods and still be completely lost. In several of the episodes that is the point, can he make it back to civilization on his own before the seven days are up and the crew goes out to look for him? However, I wouldn't call the Kalahari desert, the arctic circle, or the ocean civilization. He's replicating actual survival situations, not "throw me out in the middle of nowhere and see how much fun I can have." Also, don't discount what carrying your camera equipment and getting your own shots adds to your workload. He's easily carrying a hundred pounds of camera gear ALL THE TIME. And to get his shots he has to set up the camera, walk past it, walk back, and then walk to where he wanted to go. Or putting a camera on top of a hill (arctic episode) for distance shots and having to continually hike back and forth to put in new tapes. You can discount that work all you like, but Bear doesn't have to do that. It wouldn't be necessary in a survival situation, thank goodness, but it is for a tv show. And you know what? He's alone in the wilderness for seven days with nothing but a camera to talk to. Catching food is hard. Hunger pains are extremely uncomfortable. I'm ok hearing him complain about how hard it is to survive in the cold/heat without food. It's true. It doesn't take long to get ravenous.I also agree with Yogi that Les offers practical survival advice for different real-life situations that you could actually call upon if you were ever in a similar situation. If I'm lost in the woods I'm not going to be climbing rocks or navigating rapids for the hell of it. It makes a great show, but it's not survival. It's the exact opposite, putting yourself in unneeded danger, and he wouldn't be willing to do half those things without the safety net of a camera crew nearby. I'm sorry this is long, but I'm a big fan of Survivorman and feel the need to correct your misconceptions. Les rarely has matches, just as he rarely has a gun. It can be light outside and you can still be totally exhausted with higher priorities. and if you actually watched the show you'd know that he never "walks for 15 minutes back into civilization." The shows have entirely different points, and you can give both men credit for their accomplishments. However, I would like to point out that isolation is its own survival situation, and Bear doesn't have to deal with that, just as there is a huge difference between having help in an emergency readily at hand and help having to find you when you could already be dying in a crevice. Les' crew doesn't even start looking for him until day 7. He could be long dead by then. Another risk Bear doesn't have to deal with.
ReplyDeleteI guess I'm pretty long-winded too. :-)
ReplyDelete1. Some one agrees with Yogi
ReplyDelete2. Someone is not ashamed of their verbosity
3. Chelsey spelled with a y not an a
1+2+3 = Yogi thinks Chelsey's awesome!
Umm, Survivorman is not actually survivign at all, he is slowly dying of starvation over a 7 day period. I just watched hin in Africa and u could hear a lion roar in the background, (u cant mistake a lion roar!) and he thinks its a wilderbeast or buffalo... He drank out of disgusting, bacteria infested waterhole that even he acknowledges could be faeces and urine drenched! If I followed Les we would die for sure. He always starves and eats maybe 5 bugs all week when he could catch many other animals. In the amazon he films big spiders, bats eating him, but he doesnt bother to catch them! he is dumb, I watch him for a laugh...
ReplyDeleteBear Grills is called Bear cos his wee sister named him that when he was wee. In Aussie he drank urine cos he is showing what u can and might have to do, I would follow Bear everytime over Les! He has real survivor skills, SAS trained. In Africa he finds a half eaten Zebra not just dropped there for him. His show is to show us the extremes of what u can do to live and survive, Les show is good for a laugh and how to slowly die...
(BTW, I am an ex SAS soldier and appreciate his work)